New site!

Stim · Post by **Stim** » Thu 12. Oct 2006, 23:12

Hey all!

This is site I have work whit now. It’s not my site really, but I am site "technique". It’s not finished yet really!! But I hope you like it anyway?!

New site!

Stim · Post by **Stim** » Wed 18. Oct 2006, 05:18

Must be really bad site. No response at all!! Tanks guys!

DeXXus · Post by **DeXXus** » Wed 18. Oct 2006, 07:52

Some of the pages do not appear the same "cross-browser". Columns are not maintained in Firefox (as opposed to IE6). For example:
http://www.adoptionsportalen.se/index.php?adopt
http://www.adoptionsportalen.se/index.php?organisation

Location of "Engelska" is quite different between browsers.
http://www.adoptionsportalen.se/shopping/

Also this link is not showing up in my IE6 for some "javascript" reason:
http://www.adoptionsportalen.se/index.php?fotogalleri

AdoptionsForum banner does not show up in my Firefox 1.5.0.7 for any of the pages of the site.

DeXXus · Post by **DeXXus** » Wed 18. Oct 2006, 08:12

Poll is not showing up in my IE6 for these links (at bottom of page):

http://www.adoptionsportalen.se/index.p ... ,7,0,0,1,0
http://www.adoptionsportalen.se/index.p ... enastenytt
http://www.adoptionsportalen.se/index.p ... 15,0,0,1,0
http://www.adoptionsportalen.se/index.p ... 90,0,0,1,0
http://www.adoptionsportalen.se/index.p ... 94,0,0,1,0

Stim · Post by **Stim** » Wed 18. Oct 2006, 09:46

It is strange DeXXus. Anyone more have same problem? I run IE6 and IE7 in windows vista, and all works for me. But sometime that poll, and “fotogalleri” can take same time to load.

AdoptionsForum banne its flash stuff, have you installed flash player?

I guess you have but I don’t know what ells it can be

“Shopping” its not ready for other languages then Swedish so if you change languages its sows different (not just text, but also other stuff)

DeXXus · Post by **DeXXus** » Wed 18. Oct 2006, 14:15

DeXXus wrote: Also this link is not showing up in my IE6 for some "javascript" reason:
http://www.adoptionsportalen.se/index.php?fotogalleri

My bad for this one. It seems that closing all instances of IE6 and returning there... NOW shows the gallery, FINE! Sorry, about that one.

I'm still experiencing the others, for some reason and I do have Flash installed (even tried FF in "Safe" mode). But, I could have something unique about my browser setups (because I install plugins & extensions.

DeXXus · Post by **DeXXus** » Wed 18. Oct 2006, 14:18

Here's the screenshots:

DeXXus · Post by **DeXXus** » Wed 18. Oct 2006, 14:21

Here's more screenshots:

DeXXus · Post by **DeXXus** » Wed 18. Oct 2006, 14:22

and some more screenshots:

Stim · Post by **Stim** » Wed 18. Oct 2006, 20:37

Thank you DeXXus for you take your time to find bad pages first of al.

Well, that fotogalleri use iframe in article on phpwcms, and believe that’s some time mess around with loading fotogalleri pages.

Anyway, screenshots 1: I didn’t know that. I guess its something with "list.tmpl".
And that "?" (banner) its strange, because its shows in "screenshots 5"

Screenshots 2: seems to be same problem as screenshots 1, with "list.tmpl".

Screenshots 3: That’s normal, if you change languages to English.

Screenshots 4: That’s strange; seem to be something with English language file.

Screenshots 5: That’s "normal": because that poll stuff sometimes shows and some time not. When it not loaded normal that banner "take that polls places". (That poll also use iframe as fotogalleri).

Screenshots 6: same problem as screenshots 5.

Screenshots 7: What wrong in here? Btw, its seem to be that you use higher screen stuff that 1024 x 768.? (its just for 800x600 and 1024 x 768.)

Screenshots 8: same problem as screenshots 5 and 6. (With that poll-iframe-stuff)

Screenshots 9: same problem as screenshots 5 and 6 and 8. (With that poll-iframe-stuff).

Well, many fix and stuff to do so all works perfect. Btv, have you tested those e-card stuffs? I have problem with it because all –card sends to trash folder in hotmail. If someone have hotmail, I am glad you can test sending to your self for see if its work.

Many thanks again DeXXus for you take your time. Hope you find some more "ugly pages"

DeXXus · Post by **DeXXus** » Thu 19. Oct 2006, 05:19

Stim wrote:Thank you DeXXus for you take your time to find bad pages first of all.

You're welcome. You stated you weren't getting any feedback... I jumped on it.

Stim wrote:Well, that fotogalleri use iframe in article on phpwcms, and believe that’s some time mess around with loading fotogalleri pages.

You are probably right about it being "fussy". But, it IS working and I'm sorry to not have been more thorough.

Stim wrote:Anyway, screenshots 1: I didn’t know that. I guess its something with "list.tmpl".

It is something to do with the "empty" elements shown in this screenshot:

Stim wrote:And that "?" (banner) its strange, because its shows in "screenshots 5"

Screenshot 1 is Firefox...screenshot 5 is Internet Explorer. (that is the problem).

Stim wrote:Screenshots 2: seems to be same problem as screenshots 1, with "list.tmpl".

Yes, again something to do with the "empty" elements shown in this screenshot:

Stim wrote:Screenshots 3: That’s normal, if you change languages to English.

Screenshots 4: That’s strange; seem to be something with English language file.

I'm talking about the position (placement). #3 is underneath "din kommun" button, but #4 is under "Photogalleri" button.

Stim wrote:Screenshots 5: That’s "normal": because that poll stuff sometimes shows and some time not. When it not loaded normal that banner "take that polls places". (That poll also use iframe as fotogalleri).

Screenshots 6: same problem as screenshots 5.

This could be becaue I block cookies in Internet Explorer, but not in FireFox. Then Screenshots 7, 8 & 9 would be for the same reason.

Stim wrote: Btw, its seem to be that you use higher screen stuff that 1024 x 768.? (its just for 800x600 and 1024 x 768.)

Yes, using 1280x1024. But, that is not the reason for polls missing. Maybe cookies...(didn't try to turn them on).

Stim wrote:[Well, many fix and stuff to do so all works perfect. Btv, have you tested those e-card stuffs? I have problem with it because all –card sends to trash folder in hotmail. If someone have hotmail, I am glad you can test sending to your self for see if its work.

Nope, that feature has no "appeal" to me, so I don't know/use it. Sorry!

Stim wrote:Many thanks again DeXXus for you take your time. Hope you find some more "ugly pages"

NO! It is a nice job and I MEAN that. Just those damn browser differences.

Ooops...BTW:

Little thing here in "menubar.css". I ~think~:

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  background-color: #transparent;

should be:

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  background-color: transparent;

DeXXus · Post by **DeXXus** » Thu 19. Oct 2006, 05:38

Okay further digging brings up possible reasons for poll "flakiness":

"http://www.adoptionsportalen.se/pollphp/poll_2.php"

Warning: missing <!DOCTYPE> declaration (this might put IE into wrong mode)

Also little validator error:

line 6 column 5 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements

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<html>
<body>
<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="1" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
  <tr align="center">
    <td>
      <style type="text/css">

Instead of bothering you with the details of minutia... here are some examples of other validator warnings that are shared on most pages of the site (example page shown below):

http://www.adoptionsportalen.se/index.php?organisation

line 19 column 1 - Warning: <meta> missing '>' for end of tag
line 21 column 1 - Warning: <meta> missing '>' for end of tag
line 252 column 1 - Warning: <div> attribute with missing trailing quote mark
line 277 column 7 - Warning: <div> missing '>' for end of tag
line 306 column 1 - Warning: <div> attribute with missing trailing quote mark
line 331 column 7 - Warning: <div> missing '>' for end of tag
line 358 column 1 - Warning: discarding unexpected </div>
line 358 column 7 - Warning: <div> missing '>' for end of tag
line 385 column 1 - Warning: discarding unexpected </div>
line 385 column 7 - Warning: <div> missing '>' for end of tag
line 412 column 1 - Warning: discarding unexpected </div>
line 414 column 193 - Warning: replacing <p> by <br>
line 414 column 193 - Warning: inserting implicit <br>
line 414 column 203 - Warning: discarding unexpected </div>
line 459 column 2 - Warning: <embed> is not approved by W3C
line 68 column 1 - Warning: <body> attribute "bgcolor" has invalid value "4F4F4"
line 259 column 1 - Warning: <table> attribute "background" lacks value
line 265 column 1 - Warning: <td> attribute "height" has invalid value "40px"
line 284 column 1 - Warning: <table> attribute "background" lacks value
line 290 column 1 - Warning: <td> attribute "height" has invalid value "40px"
line 313 column 1 - Warning: <table> attribute "background" lacks value
line 319 column 1 - Warning: <td> attribute "height" has invalid value "40px"
line 338 column 1 - Warning: <table> attribute "background" lacks value
line 344 column 1 - Warning: <td> attribute "height" has invalid value "40px"
line 365 column 1 - Warning: <table> attribute "background" lacks value
line 371 column 1 - Warning: <td> attribute "height" has invalid value "40px"
line 392 column 1 - Warning: <table> attribute "background" lacks value
line 398 column 1 - Warning: <td> attribute "height" has invalid value "40px"
line 468 column 57 - Warning: <table> anchor "table1" already defined
line 298 column 1 - Warning: trimming empty <p>
line 352 column 1 - Warning: trimming empty <p>
line 379 column 1 - Warning: trimming empty <p>
line 406 column 1 - Warning: trimming empty <p>

Sorry to have dug so deep into your business. My apologies.

Stim · Post by **Stim** » Thu 19. Oct 2006, 09:00

Hello DeXXux.

What is that on the last Quote, with all that warning above? Do you see that on pages? And what is that on the 2 last screenshot, to left on the images and that empty space? Do you really see all that shit? Oboy, now I really confused.

What browser version and screen resolution do you use for every pages? I have to download and test it myself.

And once again thanks. Don’t worry about that "dug so deep into my business". Its just good to know all ugly think who can happens.

Stim · Post by **Stim** » Thu 19. Oct 2006, 10:44

Yes, it was some problem with list .tmpl with firefox for some of those columns.

It most be like this:

Article 1: Left
Article 2: Right
Article 3: Left
Article 4: Right

But for some of those pages those columns had

Article 1: Left
Article 2: Right
Article 3: Right
Article 4: Right

Very easy to do mistake with column stuffs. Do you still see empty elements now? I tested with firefox, IE, and with 3 different screen resolution: 800x600 , 1024x768 and 1152x864 now, and seem be works just fine. I cold not see something like that 2 last screenshot with firefox, version 1.5.0.1.

DeXXus · Post by **DeXXus** » Thu 19. Oct 2006, 11:32

Stim wrote:What is that on the last Quote, with all that warning above? Do you see that on pages?

That is -some- of the warnings output by one of my Firefox extensions (called HTML Validator) from just that one page, but many share the same warnings. Some of what it says is Firefox "working around" some of the errors in your pages.

Stim wrote:And what is that on the 2 last screenshot, to left on the images and that empty space? Do you really see all that shit? Oboy, now I really confused.

Those last 2 screenshots show what another Firefox extension (named X-Ray) reveals. It just shows the basic elements of a page, "super-imposed" over the actual page rendering. Just another troubleshooting tool for quick study of a page. I use a lot of FF extensions related to web development.
If you want to check some out:

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Aardvark{1.1}           LiveHTTPHeaders{0.12}
CSSViewer{1.0.1}        ProfessorX{0.4.1}
Console{0.3.6}          ViewSourceChart{2.4.05}
Fangs{1.0.0}            ViewSourceWith{0.0.8.2}
FireBug{0.4.1}          Viewformattedsource{0.9.4.6}
HtmlValidator{0.7.9.5   WebDeveloper{1.0.2}}
InspectThis{0.2.8.1}    X-Ray{0.6}

Stim wrote:What browser version and screen resolution do you use for every pages?

I have a few... IE6.0.2900.2180 , FF1.5.0.7, Opera9.02 ,IE7.0.5730.11
I run at 1280x1024 (fits more on the screen)

Stim wrote:And once again thanks. Don’t worry about that "dug so deep into my business". Its just good to know all ugly think who can happens.

Okay! You're welcome, OF COURSE.