Hallo deutschland
I will translate a bit (or more precisely transcribe what I understood + thx 2 google -the funny english parts-, what I didn't understand I put in red or
), so everyone can follow this VERY important and WELL DISCUSSED thread... (note I didn't quote because it's not an exact translation and If u see errors,
correct me please <-- and you will have to as some parts are really "gergoolish")
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ssyfrig:
Does a second forum make sense?
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pepe:
In principle... NO. Therefore the forum is there with the specific problems with the installation of the offered Templates.
Well, and then I would like, nevertheless, to publish the answers to -uneeeeendless- many questions, which are asked almost exclusively to me by email and in less here (on the forum?), questions asked in GERMAN, on a broader basis.
Also I answer most questions already many times...
thus, that will remain in the phpWCMS forum...
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Pappnase:
Hi Pepe,
then I would take phpwcms(forum) completely out
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pepe:
But Pappnase, that would be paradoxical, because exactly therefore I made phpWCMS templates FORUM!
That would be like, as if you would omit the DOCU Site phpwcms
xxxxxxx DOCU.de , that would be genuinly senseless or then finds you nevertheless no sign and with xxxxxxx templates.de...
which was what I wanted to say.
<-- even google didn't help here!!
Question thus: Be involved again back to the start, are not involved not over a goal and draw in no 1000€!
???
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Pappnase:
He's ok with the idea, finds it great, had no time to implement it himself.
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Fli-flop:
There is at the moment in the forum so much positive energy and idealism, that is already nearly frightening. The time is ready to become once and for all serious.That applies also or particularly to O.G.
If it is to split everything in three forums, we will en dup with:
1. For
risers not completely transparently.
2. Complicated for feedback on questions (in three forums at the same time).
3. Answering potential takes off from the main forum. In the worst case scenario it ends in the long term in a split AND that is deadly.
ABOVE MENTIONED ONE should become clearly about what we really want the system to be.
1. Do I have meanwhile a certain responsibility opposite the users and untiring aids?
2. Are the system secrettaps (
) remaining and it continues to go so as before?
3. Am I interested in a co-operation, (however constituted)?
This Tread shows, if u give people the direction of the project as
http://www.phpwcms.de/forum/viewtopic.p ... lung#30024 and the will somewhat to do is present.
The "phpWcms community" is successful from my view for three reasons: 1. The forum is led in two languages. Therefore meet different mentalities, which is a very healthy mixture related to help.
2. There are here humans of recent and older design.
(lol) The older people hold in a long term the whole shop together. The younger people bring at all only lives and new ideas (and times evenly new blanks coden
) at the night.
3. Many people participate with large idealism. That is already unusual, which I experience here. If one sums the hours up, which are spent here in the forum, it can be only idealism. Because a commercial interest cannot stand computationally behind it. It may not also. As soon as someone begins to offer a blank for money begins the thing to crumble.
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I hope ABOVE MENTIONED ONES left these tread.
Power you please, please thoughts it prevails to departure tendency.
All should pull on a cord.
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pico:
We should make a Thread, where people register which knowledge they have and whether they want to cooperate in this project. Because if groups can be only formed there then in coordination with OG, or whoever takes over the project management, on individual parts work.
In addition however time a plan (Roadmap) must be made which actually to be made is as the first (must). And the whole must be seized then under a web page together. For the moment the current sides are already confusing for an a riser - if there now still new will be added whole ever the more dismembered.
A way out of the whole would be at least a center side on then to the individual Sub sides linked is - a uniform appearance should be specified there then however - if it not possible is everything on a side together to cause, what the better solution is natural.
I am already longer the opinion that this project is simply for it ripe. It is not with the extent it today already has for individual an any more to master and develop further - one thinks for waiting only like for a long time we for the user administration. This should be in no case a criticism at OG - he must also see the fact that he supplies himself there and its family and remains for a project of this order of magnitude simply not enough time.
But around ' splintering ' the whole to stop it requires a clear statement of OG - possibly it has there its thoughts made like it to continue itself is. Otherwise it will lead sooner or later to the fact that this project dies or in in or several separate projects disintegrates. so this were times again a few thoughts from me to it
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pepe:
Hello all of phpWCMS friends
It is beautifull to see everyone's united, nevertheless the further existence of phpWCMS is at the heart of it.
Therefore again from my side to the calming: I want to reach in no case with my project for phpWCMS that falls somewhat apart
In addition has I to much-too much time with the understanding of the Script and also here in the forum spent....
The opposite is the case. I want to try to take more beginners the fear of the installation and with functioning Templates the start easier.
The free templates are thereby only the first step. One will be able to understand the planned videos also without much words! WYSIWYG? You you already times asked, why the large ones, how Joomla! etc. are as successful... go there the installation as roll cheeks and one have immediately an useful, presentable result!!!
That is missing here simply! The mass is not fastidious as, as some from you thinks... main thing it runs which and one progresses. One becomes perfect later! And exactly that is the only real Stolperstein.
The designer among you will surely over much smile, which it here in such a way see, but the young and girl be proud on... let they nevertheless!
They can never hand you the water. Must also garnich! Ever beginner meht by us "active one" the step dares... and creates, the further spreading experiences Olivers CMS. I would see gladly phpWCMS soon as contribution in the InterNet professional etc.!
Wenn's in this order of magnitude to the start, has OURS only goes phpWCMS on a long-term basis a survival level. Also no "competition" is to develop for the DOCU side... I would be stupid, many the work, which you already invested pappnase to clean-put again!
And better one cannot make such a thing also! I always strove to show something other view of the things. Less the systematic, as on the DOCU Site, but picking individual crack points out and the release with the means of the "ingenious" Scripts from OG.
The topics of "my" momentary on-line forum are from air seized (one must write something) and only for function tests used... are nevertheless still perfectly I also newbee! Thus, pappnase, a concern, on my local host does not look that everything already completely differently. Purposeful information to the Templates and the installation... But must already be a few basic informations. And also those will be written "from my view of the things" (absolute dummy)... Thus still times in short form: No competition separate extension of the offer pallet for information-looking for...
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rushclub:
I find the template idea super and her gladly with own templates would support see forum technical also so phpwcms generally here and templatespezifisch I on the templateseite.
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Woaw, that was something
( sweating kosse)
!
Probably one of
my longest thread in the forum so far
If u permit me I will put my contributions in this thread in another post (but in english -which is not my mothertongue, but what most pple understand- and I will try to put a summary in deutsch)
Cheers
ETITED: Fli-flop translation thx
For risers not completely transparently
> For beginners not completely transparently
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There are here humans of recent and older design. (lol) The older people hold in a long term the whole shop together. The younger people bring at all only lives and new ideas (and times evenly new blanks coden Question ) at the night.
>There are here humans of recent and older design. (lol) The older people hold in a long term the whole community together. The younger people bring at all lives and new ideas (and are creating a new RT over night).
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I hope ABOVE MENTIONED ONES left these tread.
>I hope O.G. will be reading this thread.
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Power you please, please thoughts it prevails to departure tendency.
>Please think about that before saying somthing There is an atmosphere of departure.
>All should pull on a cord. (All should act in concert)
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, probably the same "disease" as our favourite cms, phpwcms, has sometimes...
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