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Posted: Sat 17. Apr 2004, 18:39
by dr.swank
Hi all, not as to cross dev levels here.. I am working on FCMS as well and have a demo that shows the data chain up at the following location:

http://fcms.burbacher.org/fcms_demo

The code is still quite choppy, but everythinbg is there so far. My studens are working on the content type parsing code at the moment, so there will not be much to see until they are done.

The site structure can be seen at:

http://fcms.burbacher.org/index.php

More as things develope. cheers, Doc

Posted: Sun 18. Apr 2004, 04:23
by Fulvio Romanin
don't even joke, there's no ego problem, no cross-dev here :)
we can follow different roads to achieve different results
my code is mostly issued towards getting things back in a different way from yours, so anyone can try what he prefers :)

actually i'm drunk as hell, and tomorrow i should end up my first working demo of fcms0.2 if i just can get up my ass from the bed
i wrote you but you didn't answer - your menu stuff is way cool, though :)

F

Posted: Sun 18. Apr 2004, 19:48
by dr.swank
drink up son, ;)

anyhow. I am working on a fcmsDataConnector component which will have all the methods needed to grab Menu and Content structure. With that component it will be easy to use the standard UIComponents from MM as well as allowing creatives to make their own Presenters (OOP).

My students are currently developing the contentType Components that can then be added dynamically, but they are quite a ways away from being done, so I imagine I will have to finish it for them.

The Presenter components are really just for those who do not want to code thgeir own presenters. I think if the fcmsDataConnector is done right, then it could be used as a basis for a "framework" of sorts where different developers could offer component sets that work with it.

This is all after we get the thing running right though.

cheers, doc

Posted: Mon 19. Apr 2004, 14:34
by dr.swank
new demo of what can be done... this is based on a flash5 (!!!) file from Jared Tarbell at http://www.levitated.net which I messed around with a bit.

http://fcms.burbacher.org/fcms_demo2/

cheers, doc

Posted: Mon 19. Apr 2004, 21:21
by Fulvio Romanin
VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY nice
mine is much less spectacular, even if it works pretty fine

only problem is i don't have too much time to end up the site straight. i could put out just a beta and release my code. What do you ppl think? would you like to have an incomplete product?

Menu component only

Posted: Wed 12. May 2004, 06:00
by jsw_nz
I have periodically visited this page...since i have an interest in flash. I really and most interested in a menu component that would might exist side-by-side within phpwcms. it would pool the site map structure in XML and then diplay in a open/collapsible menu compnent on the left side, similar to the NAV_TABLE_COLUMN.

Fluvio have you taken a look at Sephiroth's MM Menu Tree. It has great animation, but I believe it only supports 2 XML levels, due to its original design. Would be nice to see a multiple nested levels XML menu. Here is a link to his online demo:

http://www.sephiroth.it/file_detail.php?id=96

Just some thoughts.

And dr. swank, nice work so far!

cheers, jsw

Posted: Fri 14. May 2004, 12:29
by Fulvio Romanin
*sigh*
wish i had some times in these days to end up my portfolio and with it fcms02. The sephiroth menu is way cool, but on these days i'm busy as a bee. I *really* hope that next week might be the moment...

cheers

Posted: Fri 14. May 2004, 12:42
by jsw_nz
Cheers Fulvio - BTW - very nice site/sites....I can see you are busy

Posted: Thu 3. Jun 2004, 07:04
by dr.swank
hi all, long time no letting you hear from me. I have been super busy with different projects. I thought I would post a download to my current dev level for fcms:

http://fcms.burbacher.org/fcms.zip

there are no help files or anything, but I imagine it will help somone.
I am now porting FCMS to a flashRemoting instalation based on AMFPHP ( http://www.amfphp.org ) which is opensource as well and is much faster. As I find time I will post back here to let you know how things develop.

cheers, Julian

Posted: Mon 14. Feb 2005, 21:30
by dr.swank
hi all,

well, here is a cheap and raw sample of yet another way to use fcms..

http://bonn-shido.de/

it my kung-fu training center.

anyhow, I have looked into the --...-- and FlashCMS is posted there as a project, so I thought I would post a few thoughts here before I make my dev move to the new location.

I have been considering how to address the issue of layout and presentation using FCMS as flash has so many presentation possibilities that canot even be considered in HTML. The major 2 are free text flow and transitions form state to state. In all the considerations I came up with a fairly simnple idea. I call it Mosaic (yes I know its taken, but I needed a working title). The idea is that the content sections of PHPWCMS would all recieve a checkbox as to weather they can be rendered in FCMS. If so, they then become visible in the FCMS layout editor (no it doesn't exisit yet) where they can be laid-out. Each of these content types would be presented in a container similar to a mosaic block (thus the name) which could then be positioned and transitioned according to the usual flash methods. As there were 20 content types as I last counted, plus headers, sub headers.. etc. I figure this would be doeable with out any major issues. I did a project recently where I stored relatively large xml files in a MySQL database for use in flash, thus, the article database in PHPWCMS could be expanded by 1 field which would contain an XML config file that would tell the FlashMosaic rendering engine what goes where and how.

I know this all sounds very theoritical, but after considering the limitations of doing a 'skins' approach, I though this might be the best way to go.

Let me hear your thoughts on this, and if anyone is intrested in helping out.

Also @Oliver, do you see a possibility to include this in an upcoming build? Would it be on intrest? I imagine it would be just as possible to render only parts of this and include it in the site as a regular part. I am thinking about things like the menus on http://www.flashguru.co.uk

thats all for now. Be hearring from you soon I hope.

doc

Posted: Tue 15. Feb 2005, 08:07
by brans
hi doc,

I would love to see such an enhancement and if I got you right, it would then be possible to render ex: menus like they use @ http://www.macromedia.com, isn't it ?

Oh man how this would be great!

Posted: Tue 15. Feb 2005, 10:18
by dr.swank
yeah, that would be the idea. The issue here is how to get the content parts wrapped together in a unified presentation. I will see if I can get the basic interface up and running in the next weeks and will post back. This is going to be a tough on to fulfill completely though many of the content types are not easily presented in flash. I would like most of all to use a fairly universal interface for all of this so that we flashers (stop staring ;) ) can create whatever types of presentation we want without having to adhear to any rules except for how the data is transfered or called.

cheers, doc

Posted: Tue 15. Feb 2005, 11:26
by brans
just nice, -stop-. Really if you can do this job, then the community will love you for sure. I have never heard of such a function supported by ANY cms that I know.

Imagine we could then create nice flash menus (due to vector based grafics, these menus are normally far smaller and even more Cross-Browser-Usable than JS+Image menus) or forms and integrate them into a normal html-site. And there might be some day that we will add a flash-scroll-text instead of critic div-overflow or iframe. This would be a large step into direction cross-browser websites. (exept text-browser)

this is what you are trying to achieve, right ?

Posted: Tue 15. Feb 2005, 11:47
by dr.swank
yes, that is the goal. I would like to see the ability to use the best of both worlds. The architecture is going to be a bit tricky though. I will start making some dev notes that make sense to more people than just myself and post them on the dev-brenner-b-e site.

doc

Posted: Thu 24. Feb 2005, 06:15
by micael
Hi dr.swank,

You'll find a "flashguru.co.uk" menu-like at http://blog.innocuo.com/archives/cat_flash_cms.html.
Look at "Junio 05, 2004".
Cheers