General political discussion...

frold · Post by **frold** » Wed 18. Feb 2004, 16:59

pSouper wrote:you mean to say you knew his opinion and kept that kind of information from us!!!!!! oh dont get me started on you too now frold

come on... fight me down!! I can handle it...cheater, cheater, cheater

!!!

Post by **Oliver Georgi** » Wed 18. Feb 2004, 17:48

I have splinted this thread - if you are discussing about current political world - please be friendly. Don't be too emotional and do not affront others. Try to think about before you say something

Oliver

frold · Post by **frold** » Wed 18. Feb 2004, 19:09

frold wrote:
pSouper wrote:you mean to say you knew his opinion and kept that kind of information from us!!!!!! oh dont get me started on you too now frold
come on... fight me down!! I can handle it...cheater, cheater, cheater !!!

It seems like pSouper is a chicken

pSouper · Post by **pSouper** » Wed 18. Feb 2004, 19:42

hehe, frold.
even from across the water you can see me hiding ;0)

sporto · Post by **sporto** » Wed 18. Feb 2004, 22:05

Bijan Hemati wrote:I believe President Bush is the best leader we have, keeping in focus the state of the world we are living in, at the present time.

Maybe I'm just a cynic, but I believe that Bush is well focused on an agenda that isolates the US from the rest of the world, delivers unrealistic budgets that will EXPLODE after his term in office, dramatically underfunds priorities such as education, paints corporate pollution give-aways in terms such as "Clear Skies" (an effort to gut Clean Air Standards) and "Healthy Forrests" (giving a free-for-all to clear old growth forrests in the US) and delivers tax relief for the wealthiest few.

I'm stepping off my soapbox now.

sporto · Post by **sporto** » Wed 18. Feb 2004, 22:06

I love political discussion.

But don't bring my mom into it...

That would make 'em fighting words...

Bijan Hemati · Post by **Bijan Hemati** » Wed 18. Feb 2004, 23:43

Dear sporto,

President Bush has no agenda.
United State was attacked and more than 3,000 innocent man woman and children were viciously murdered.

We are living in a different time. Our enemies are not using the acceptable rules of engagement. They kill innocent civilians and terrorize the masses.
There is only one way to deal with that kind of enemy. You'll take the fight to them and President Bush is doing just that.

The Terrorist are not just attacking the United States. They are attacking Freedom and Freedom Loving People.

Regards,
Bijan

frold · Post by **frold** » Thu 19. Feb 2004, 00:04

Bijan Hemati wrote:Dear sporto,

President Bush has no agenda.
United State was attacked and more than 3,000 innocent man woman and children were viciously murdered.

Hmm and thousans of people dies every day of AIDS, malaria, and hunger in the 3th world - must of them are children is there life lees worth then the one in WTC?

frold · Post by **frold** » Thu 19. Feb 2004, 00:05

Bijan Hemati wrote: We are living in a different time. Our enemies are not using the acceptable rules of engagement. They kill innocent civilians and terrorize the masses.

is 3.000 the masses?

Enemies... sometimes I´m scared about US.. Instead of seing enemies all around the world, why not see possibilities?

I think US over-react!

If there wasn´t all the social trubles in the 3th world I´m sure there was alot less "enemies".. All the money spent in the Iraq was used better - I think!

Post by **Oliver Georgi** » Thu 19. Feb 2004, 00:26

Nobody can applause the dead people of the 9/11 - but this has dramatically changed the world. Violence is no answer.

Remember who has pushed islamic terrorists during the cold war. It was the USA. Who gave them weapons and power? Here are some stations in a very very long line: Korea, Vietnam, Nicragarua, Afghanistan, Iraq. The world is blooding - and it seems that there is NO end.

In world's eyes the USA is fixed on itself. 9/11 brought aggression in front of your door - you are not far away anymore. That is what was shocking for US people. But think about: this is what happens outside USA every day to many innocent people.

The US way will not solve one problem they tell they do. When US is leaving Iraq a civil war will start. Another whole region is destabilized.

Oliver

pSouper · Post by **pSouper** » Thu 19. Feb 2004, 00:52

Thank you everyone for your views and thoughts, I have read some very interesting and thought provoking observations from all contributors.
and now I think that should be all for today

I really think this could go on a bit longer BUT... We are all friends here and should not hold our views against others ESPECIALLY as we have a great community developing right on our 'virtual door step'.

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General political discussion...

I really think this could go on a bit longer BUT....