general question - doing it without layouttables

teebee · Post by **teebee** » Tue 10. May 2005, 17:47

hi,

i'm searching for a "medium" CMS and this oné looks good at first sight.

I'm into CSS and i'd like to change the general site logic using tables for layout purposes, into using other html-elements (div...)

Was it possible (to avoid layouttables)?
Was it hard to do using php wcms (or not)?

...and changing doctype to xhtml1.0 - same questions...

greets teebee

brans · Post by **brans** » Tue 10. May 2005, 18:34

you can turn your site nearly into css but you will have to modify some hardcoded content parts...

http://phpwcms.pixelpeter.de/ some of them have already been turned into div/list usage...

phpwcms is very flexible as long as you don't have to go for the core code, which in your situation will be needed... maybe have a look at http://www.iframe.ch or (the worse) http://www.redaxo.de as these systems are fully aimed to have fully css+div driven layouts.

I haven't modified anything within phpwcms but have used as much div+css combination as possible at http://www.brenner.lu

teebee · Post by **teebee** » Fri 13. May 2005, 12:29

Hello,

thx for the links.
I`ve some questions on http://www.brenner.lu

Since when is this dynamic site online?

This site is not a private project - how is it about the licence/payment topic with php wmcs. Different Licences, Payment at once, etc.
Or is it allowed to use php wmcs for commercial purposes the same way you could use this software for private purposes.

my questions about the structure of brenner.lu

If i have a look inside the html-code i see div-elements wrapping layouttables.

I haven't modified anything within phpwcms but have used as much div+css combination as possible

But how you get the div-elements inside the template logic (i guess there are templates)? They must be generated with php wmcs? That means to me, that you worked inside php wmcs and changed the code for this templates. For example, in "Logistik" div-elements wrapping the content-table.
If my assumption is right, why didn`t you change the concept avoiding tables for layout purposes filled with content? No interest on that or was it too hard doing that with php wcms?

greets teebee

Edit:
Now, i`ve tried to translate. i hope you can follow...

jscholtysik · Post by **jscholtysik** » Fri 13. May 2005, 12:41

Hi teebee,

bitte denkt auch weiterhin daran, daß dies ein internationales Forum sein soll. Verfaßt bitte deshalb Eure Einträge weiterhin auch in Englisch.

Danke im Voraus.

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Hi teebee,

please note furthermore that this forum shall be an international forum. So please write your entries also in english.

Thanks in advance.

Joachim

marco · Post by **marco** » Fri 13. May 2005, 23:54

brans wrote:... maybe have a look at http://www.iframe.ch

Brans, have you tried out iframe's s-Node? It looks absolutely impressive! Any comments on it?

brans · Post by **brans** » Sun 15. May 2005, 08:51

I haven't tried it out because of lack of time.

I will do so in a few weeks.

deanloh · Post by **deanloh** » Sun 15. May 2005, 09:18

can someone help me out by telling what is this iframe.ch thingie? It looks like a very cool CMS to me and I couldnt get any further than that.

Do they have an english site?

teebee · Post by **teebee** » Sun 15. May 2005, 11:03

drop them a line...

marco · Post by **marco** » Sun 15. May 2005, 12:42

brans wrote:I haven't tried it out because of lack of time.

I will do so in a few weeks.

I tried to install it on my laptop but it failed because it could not find an SMTP service. I did not want to use the XP Pro SMTP service so I installed the freeeware Free SMTP Server. However, I could not start it because something else already grabbed port 25. So that's where I stopped, did not have time to find out what's holding port 25.

What intrigues me about s-Node, besides my interest in Open Source CMS's in general, is that it has some very, very useful plugins.

I hate to talk about s-Node here on the phpwcms forum, but iframe has no forum, nor and english site, and there is nothing in english on it on the web. So, I will instead use the private forum messages on this topic, if that's ok.

cyrano · Post by **cyrano** » Sun 15. May 2005, 12:53

if you want to use it, i would wait till they have finished the version which needs just 1 database, at the moment you need 3 mysql-databases to run it.

is that an effort?