deanloh wrote:Only thing is, doing so will end up having IP info being included whenever I use the contact form.
Yeh, the suggested use for this included letting users know you have their IP info -- it can show in a text box as they submit the form.
deanloh wrote:Pageman
I think we are on different track here. You might want to play around with phpwcms more and you will know what you are talking about, and what we are talking about.
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Probably. I don't use "the" e-mail form, I use "an" e-mail form which serves my needs quite well, which is why i suggested it. You might be right that I might settle into a packaged back-end once I become familiar with a particular favorite package.
The only real need that sent me looking for a back-end (besides that had used some and they were handy ways to maintain existing sites) was that I need to give users a WYSIWYG editor, probably along with an easy image-processing front end for users, and maybe a site menu manager. For now, common CGI and Perl freewares, along with whatever I hack together serves my needs quite well for forms, forums, etc.
As the site grows, databasing probably could make content storage easier to manage, but a file-oriented back-end would be quite adequate, if it had a super-simple front end.
I could see where I was going vis-a-vis what people are packaging in freeware CMS's when I pasted my table oriented background layout into the "custom" template page -- I don't need "headers" "footers" or "articles" -- they tend to get in the way of the format I already established. In fact, my first goal in laying out this particular site was to violate familiar column-and-block orientations, which I did by stacking images over background lines and using variously sized images on different pages against a similarly themed background that maintains the integrity of the namespace.
The dynamic of the site I'm easing WCMS into is not built around "articles" though I can call them that. The ideal CMS for my needs is probably more along the lines of a Wiki CMS -- a backend with a very strong front end that will let unskilled users format announcements, schedules, event promotions and historical group information online using about the same skills they would need to run a standard word processor - drop-down font menus, WYSIWYG formatting, drag-and-drop content boxes, etc.
Nonetheless, if I continue deploying PHPWCMS for this task, once I'm familiar with it, I'll probably write some sites that rely much more heavily on its embedded features, instead of using it to manipulate the scripts I am already familiar with. If nothing else, it's handy to have all of the various scripting in one expansible package.
Anyway, good luck if you slip that line of code into your site. I'll soon be looking for much more data on my users than I get from my host, and this trick will probably be the first thing I try.