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Just a question for the community regarding an additional 'column field' CATEGORICAL-TOPIC for articles...
and additional table CATEGORICAL-TOPIC for wcms DB itself....

the idea of 'categorical topics' might be viewed similar to categories
...(categories are generally reserved for wcms's structure of content itself)


the idea of CATEGORICAL-TOPIC allows
a given article to be mapped to MULTIPLE CATEGORICAL-TOPICS
much like blogs do this... a semantic feature of cross referencing

in this blog (subtraction.com) the use of the select box called 'categories'
is similar to the concept I have here of CATEGORICAL-TOPIC:
http://www.subtraction.com/

CATEGORICAL-TOPIC raises questions:

(1) How would this be incorporated - (as a module most likely?) and
(2) How would this be incorporated within the edit article interface - (a multiple select option? - core only?)
(3) Do you think of this as a useful idea and addition to wcms?

cheers,
john


ps: i guess this is hinting at something different from keywords -
rather categorical topics would be a centralized repository for site wide cross referencing
ie: ethics, economics, sustainability - basically broad notions that could be queried by wcms...
... different from keywords....

You have that yet - it's called keywords. These are stored in such "structured" way - see the ajax dropdown. But it does not group any article in frontend based on such info at the moment.

Oliver

Hi Oliver,

Yes, I was hinting at something different from keywords...
- the idea was to have a central place for them (as module?)
- and that they could be made available for grouping of articles....
- but like you said - cannot group any article in front end based on such info at the moment.

- just an idea - would be nice to have this - imo - a multiple select box for article edit interface

BTW - you mentioned ajax dropdown for keywords - hmm....
- do you have a link to thread discussing this - was not aware of this

cheers

there is no discussion about it yet.

Oliver

Hi John,

(hey, hi, ho, fortunately you are back, appreciated!!!)
full ACK, affirmation! The discussion starts right here.

Actually the only REALLY "semantic feature" is:

[x]

hi Jensensen

thanks for your steady replies - in principle Oliver is right
- should think of this in terms of keywords
- (however i am still interested in concept of primary set of keyword<>internal categories)
- (like you said "META but real {virtual} only] categories [internally]")

- but maybe to start and make things simple - lets start with keywords
- as they already exist, as was Oliver's suggestion....

so basically a
{REP_TAG} :

{SHOW_KEYWORD_TABLE}

(1) would get all keywords site wide
(2) sort alphabetically
(3) get DISTINCT article counts based on keywords
(4) render to a table*** - list structure - with href's going to a special search page results*

* this page might not render the search box itself - just a results page
- more like an article listing whose results are paginated (10 per page - for example)

- just thinking out loud -
- trying to think a way to do as simple as possible

cheers



***
table list could be lke the one at the bottom of this page
http://www.subtraction.com/archives/200 ... ing_an.php

- code looks like this:
so the tag: {SHOW_KEYWORD_TABLE:4}
where 4 is the number of columns

do you think this is doable?

With KeyCloud you can do, I think! http://forum.phpwcms.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17884

Include/Exclude:
You can define
1) categories easily (e.g. the whole site by excluding none/few) and
2) keywords as well (no need to do so, but whenever you want, you're able to --> include your "favorite set" or --> exclude unwanted)

Output:
Use CSS, floats, div.keycloud a width display block to get the above-mentioned screen design - and a separate --> search page.

When you need UL/LI (tables) then add the appropriate code to the last lines of the script (I think you know where to add).

Cheers Jensensen

yes, I noticed this a couple of days ago - and yes
similar to the the concept discussed

will take it for a test spin
well done and thanks for your many contributions!

all best from nz

Oliver Georgi wrote:...see the ajax dropdown...

Hmm, I(mac FFox) can't see any dropdown but a green flashing[milliseconds] rotating sign whenever I add another letter. Where is / when I can see the "ajax dropdown" and what is it good for? What happens to every green ajaxed flashed character?

(mac FFox)

this could mean the growl-alert (ff3.x) while entering some new keywords..
i guess, phpwcms is contextually listing so-far saved keywords in this article's category?!

Hi yoshi001,

yoshi001 wrote:... the growl-alert (ff3.x) while entering ...

no, i think it's different [from that self-completive FF form fields - never got a green flashing rotating sign {next to the field} on the page]

i guess

yoshi001 wrote:... phpwcms is contextually listing ...

nothing

but I'll test it with win machines also...one day...grmpf


BTW:
Yesterday I could (was allowed to) see a brilliant way of really AJAXed drag-and-drop --> for example to --> resort, rotate EVEN CPs.

This will come in a few days/weeks¿
--> with some new
==> MOD updates
made by a another man of genius ...

Jensensen wrote: BTW: Yesterday I could (was allowed to) see a brilliant way of really AJAXed drag-and-drop
--> for example to --> resort, rotate EVEN CPs.
This will come in a few days/weeks¿
--> with some new
==> MOD updates
made by a another man of genius ...

~ 2 weeks & counting.. any news on that? it sounds highly interesting!