E-Commerce...

colech · Post by **colech** » Wed 4. Aug 2004, 08:01

OK, I've set up osCommerce and have been playing with it but have a few problems with it:

No default secured backend
Not easy to customize look and feel

By adding mods--Simple Template System (STS) or Basic Template System (BTS)--you can simplify the template making process. BUT are they just halfway hacks, and is osCommerce going to be implementing an integrated template system anytime soon? I am concerned because I plan on doing a LOT of modification to the layout and content of the default osCommerce install.

Jari · Post by **Jari** » Fri 6. Aug 2004, 00:57

What I know the next release will have a template system but when it will be released no one know

With the STS mod (contrib) you can do a lot with the design.

I'm working on couple own designed osCommerce webshops with the STS mod (contrib) for clients and the one that is almost finished is this one (there is still some to do with it):

http://www.distansdata.nu/tdjdata/

pSouper · Post by **pSouper** » Fri 6. Aug 2004, 09:46

FWIW:
I have been researching osC exhaustively, on my travels I have encountered convincing evidence that osC has security issues eminating from it's php3 code and is not due to be php4 until after the next milestone.

There is no templating as standard but via a mod that would still require a great deal of php knowledge and determination to master.

The development of osC seems at best to be in short (productive) bursts that are few and far apart. These burts are clearing the items listed in the road map by the times stated but are never released of patched until the milestone is reached; these are at aproximately 1 year intervals.
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I am now embarking on my quest for e-commerse through x-cart/x-cart gold. the cost of these items IMHO is at first misleading!... It should be priced at £100's cheaper than osC

this would of course take in to account the development costs (time) that are required to add a secure & visually similar e-commerce evironment to your existing website.

....just food for thought, pSouper

Jari · Post by **Jari** » Fri 6. Aug 2004, 18:22

Then your research on osCommerce has not been very well done

There is no securityholes or tell me what that should be ?

The mod (contribution) we are talking about STS is actually made with HTML so it's very easy to make the shop as you want it.

osCommerce is Open Source so what do you meen with xCart should be £100's cheaper than osC ?

osCommerce is developed by thousends of users but a group of people is the so called develepor group. osCommerce has many hundred so called contributions (hacks) developed by all the users, most of them very easy to implemetnt even with small knowledge in PHP.

osCommerce is one of the most used webshops on the Internet today and that would say something.

osCommerce forum http://forums.oscommerce.com/ with 37 795 registerd members

osCommerce contributions wit hundreds and hundreds of hacks http://www.oscommerce.com/community/contributions

Jari · Post by **Jari** » Fri 6. Aug 2004, 18:45

And this STS hack is very easy to use, you only add 8 lines of code before the the last ?> caracters in one file so you don't need any knowledge in PHP.

Then you use one HTML file to costumice your webshop, but you can go further and make more and deeper changes if you want to with more HTML-files.

pSouper · Post by **pSouper** » Fri 6. Aug 2004, 21:14

sorry if i offend Jari, just reporting asi find it

This link covers some of my issues:http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185359

I will look at the sts tamplating system though.

jari wrote:osCommerce is Open Source so what do you meen with xCart should be £100's cheaper than osC ?

the cost of a system is totaled at the end not the begining

if osC is free ($200 less that x-cart) but requires more time to configure and customise/template then assuming you still belive as i do that time = money you must be able to create the equivalent system to x-cart within two days maximum for it to still be efficient. I propose that this would not be possible for even the more experienced (though i speak as a beginner).

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Fri 6. Aug 2004, 21:25

It took me about 8 hours to create http://www.emergenthomestore.com after installing osCommerce, applying various mods and design the graphics. This was done about 10 months ago. I just finished http://www.modernglamourcare.com, which was built on the new offering from X-Cart called Lite Commerce (http://www.litecommerce.com). Creating the template only took me about 4 hours. I have not used X-Cart, yet, but I think the templating system is very similar to Lite Commerce. Basically, you just need to insert some replacement tags into a standard html layout.
My other two Lite Commerce Sites are:
http://www.tvhealthsolutions.com
http://www.golf-technologies.com

Jari · Post by **Jari** » Sat 7. Aug 2004, 00:08

pSouper wrote:sorry if i offend Jari, just reporting asi find it

This link covers some of my issues:http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185359

I will look at the sts tamplating system though.

jari wrote:osCommerce is Open Source so what do you meen with xCart should be £100's cheaper than osC ?
the cost of a system is totaled at the end not the begining
if osC is free ($200 less that x-cart) but requires more time to configure and customise/template then assuming you still belive as i do that time = money you must be able to create the equivalent system to x-cart within two days maximum for it to still be efficient. I propose that this would not be possible for even the more experienced (though i speak as a beginner).

No I was not offended so no problem, I followd the link but couldn't read anything about any security problem ? Can you tell me what you meen or is it just some false statement from you ?

I have been working with osCommerce one and half year now and have not found any security issue. So can you tell me what you meen because it could be something I need to know.

As Ben said it don't take much time to make your osCommerce look the way you want so the money you talk about is also not true.

naabu · Post by **naabu** » Thu 12. Aug 2004, 15:10

is there a simple to adminster shopping cart system that can be easily integrated into phpwcms?

i like to design sites and have just stumbled across phpwcms after an unsuccessful go with komplete lite. i was wondering if a there were any low priced, open source shopping cart scripts or software that can be easily integrated in the phpwcms system.

thanks.
james

pSouper · Post by **pSouper** » Thu 12. Aug 2004, 15:33

you could look in to e-commerce etc. you will find that although not integrated in to phpwcms they can be adapted to look and feel like your phpwcms site.
the same is quite true of forums etc.
there is little real point to integrating the two scripts as phpWCMS needs no registration to view it's content.
( The ease of this is still under discussion

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naabu · Post by **naabu** » Thu 12. Aug 2004, 17:15

So are you suggesting using phpwcms to design and manage the informational side of the website and using a separate script which is designed to look similar to the cms side.

so http://www.blah.com

and http://www.blah.com/store/

that sort of thing

please excuse me i am just a designer and do not know much about new scripting such as php and mysql manipulation. i lost track when html introduced the div tag.

pSouper · Post by **pSouper** » Thu 12. Aug 2004, 17:24

yup, kinda,
you can have the store as a menu item of link in the CSM but essentially it is a sepperate site.

pSouper runs of to find out about this new <DIV> thing....

Jan212 · Post by **Jan212** » Sun 15. Aug 2004, 17:46

I think OsC is the best solution - with a little know how you can completly mod it -> one of my projects: http://porzellanshop-arsvivendi.de , implemented 128-bit on the back&frontend + extra features like wishlist and some more shit... the community is allright and there are nice contributions.

isac · Post by **isac** » Tue 17. Aug 2004, 15:26

Now me...

And a solution to sell pictures/ photos. I look to ImageFolio Commerce Edition but its not free and its perl!

Anyone?

Thanks

cyrano · Post by **cyrano** » Tue 17. Aug 2004, 16:59

Hi Isac,

have a look at http://www.telekorn.de , a nice script - photokorn, which offers a easy-setup for a nice looking gallery - I'll have my gallery in some days online, so then you can have a look to it.

it's not free, but offers a wide variety of functions and have an excellent support.
regards cyrano