Adding Cross Referencing to WCMS: CATEGORICAL-TOPIC Concept

[jsw_nz]

Just a question for the community regarding an additional 'column field' CATEGORICAL-TOPIC for articles...
and additional table CATEGORICAL-TOPIC for wcms DB itself....

the idea of 'categorical topics' might be viewed similar to categories
...(categories are generally reserved for wcms's structure of content itself)


the idea of CATEGORICAL-TOPIC allows
a given article to be mapped to MULTIPLE CATEGORICAL-TOPICS
much like blogs do this... a semantic feature of cross referencing

in this blog (subtraction.com) the use of the select box called 'categories'
is similar to the concept I have here of CATEGORICAL-TOPIC:
http://www.subtraction.com/

CATEGORICAL-TOPIC raises questions:

(1) How would this be incorporated - (as a module most likely?) and
(2) How would this be incorporated within the edit article interface - (a multiple select option? - core only?)
(3) Do you think of this as a useful idea and addition to wcms?

cheers,
john


ps: i guess this is hinting at something different from keywords -
rather categorical topics would be a centralized repository for site wide cross referencing
ie: ethics, economics, sustainability - basically broad notions that could be queried by wcms...
... different from keywords....

[Oliver Georgi]

You have that yet - it's called keywords. These are stored in such "structured" way - see the ajax dropdown. But it does not group any article in frontend based on such info at the moment.

Oliver

[jsw_nz]

Hi Oliver,

Yes, I was hinting at something different from keywords...
- the idea was to have a central place for them (as module?)
- and that they could be made available for grouping of articles....
- but like you said - cannot group any article in front end based on such info at the moment.

- just an idea - would be nice to have this - imo - a multiple select box for article edit interface

BTW - you mentioned ajax dropdown for keywords - hmm....
- do you have a link to thread discussing this - was not aware of this

cheers

[Oliver Georgi]

there is no discussion about it yet.

Oliver

[Jensensen]

Hi John,

(hey, hi, ho, fortunately you are back, appreciated!!!)
full ACK, affirmation! The discussion starts right here.

Actually the only REALLY "semantic feature" is:

[x]

[jsw_nz]

hi Jensensen

thanks for your steady replies - in principle Oliver is right
- should think of this in terms of keywords
- (however i am still interested in concept of primary set of keyword<>internal categories)
- (like you said "META but real {virtual} only] categories [internally]")

- but maybe to start and make things simple - lets start with keywords
- as they already exist, as was Oliver's suggestion....

so basically a
{REP_TAG} :

{SHOW_KEYWORD_TABLE}

(1) would get all keywords site wide
(2) sort alphabetically
(3) get DISTINCT article counts based on keywords
(4) render to a table*** - list structure - with href's going to a special search page results*

* this page might not render the search box itself - just a results page
- more like an article listing whose results are paginated (10 per page - for example)

- just thinking out loud -
- trying to think a way to do as simple as possible

cheers



***
table list could be lke the one at the bottom of this page
http://www.subtraction.com/archives/200 ... ing_an.php

- code looks like this:

Code: Select all

<div id="footer">
<div id="cat-table">
<h3>Categories</h3>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr>
<td>
<ul>
<li><a href="#"><span>A Brief Message</span>5</a></li>
<li><a href="#"><span>AIGA</span>19</a></li>
<li><a href="#"><span>Art</span>41</a></li>
<li><a href="#"><span>Baseball</span>10</a></li>
<li><a href="#"><span>Behavior</span>58</a></li>
<li><a href="#"><span>Books</span>29</a></li>
<li><a href="#"><span>Business</span>38</a></li>
</ul>
</td>
<td class="shim"></td>

so the tag: {SHOW_KEYWORD_TABLE:4}
where 4 is the number of columns

do you think this is doable?

[Jensensen]

With KeyCloud you can do, I think! http://forum.phpwcms.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17884

Include/Exclude:
You can define
1) categories easily (e.g. the whole site by excluding none/few) and
2) keywords as well (no need to do so, but whenever you want, you're able to --> include your "favorite set" or --> exclude unwanted)

Output:
Use CSS, floats, div.keycloud a width display block to get the above-mentioned screen design - and a separate --> search page.

When you need UL/LI (tables) then add the appropriate code to the last lines of the script (I think you know where to add).

[jsw_nz]

Cheers Jensensen

yes, I noticed this a couple of days ago - and yes
similar to the the concept discussed

will take it for a test spin
well done and thanks for your many contributions!

all best from nz

[Jensensen]

...see the ajax dropdown...

Hmm, I(mac FFox) can't see any dropdown but a green flashing[milliseconds] rotating sign whenever I add another letter. Where is / when I can see the "ajax dropdown" and what is it good for? What happens to every green ajaxed flashed character?

[yoshi001]

(mac FFox)

this could mean the growl-alert (ff3.x) while entering some new keywords..
i guess, phpwcms is contextually listing so-far saved keywords in this article's category?!

[Jensensen]

Hi yoshi001,

... the growl-alert (ff3.x) while entering ...

no, i think it's different [from that self-completive FF form fields - never got a green flashing rotating sign {next to the field} on the page]

i guess

... phpwcms is contextually listing ...

nothing

but I'll test it with win machines also...one day...grmpf


BTW:
Yesterday I could (was allowed to) see a brilliant way of really AJAXed drag-and-drop --> for example to --> resort, rotate EVEN CPs.

This will come in a few days/weeks¿
--> with some new
==> MOD updates
made by a another man of genius ...

[yoshi001]

BTW: Yesterday I could (was allowed to) see a brilliant way of really AJAXed drag-and-drop
--> for example to --> resort, rotate EVEN CPs.
This will come in a few days/weeks¿
--> with some new
==> MOD updates
made by a another man of genius ...

~ 2 weeks & counting.. any news on that? it sounds highly interesting!