no Valid HTML

SNap · Post by **SNap** » Thu 20. Apr 2006, 17:23

hi,

when i validate my site under construction...

http://henters.area4711.de

i get following errors:

# Error  Line 20 column 91: there is no attribute "BACKGROUND".

...h="850" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" background="images/bg_all2.gif" align="center">

# Error Line 22 column 50: there is no attribute "BACKGROUND".

<td colspan="4" style="height:287px;"  background="images/bg_top2.gif">&nbsp;</td>

i defined these backgrounds in layout just normally...

Is it possible that i am missing a closing tag or something?

Cheers
SNap

cyrano · Post by **cyrano** » Thu 20. Apr 2006, 17:41

Hi Snap,

as is know right the right semantic css format is:

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background-image:url(images/bg_top2.gif);

To get all this right i do working now only with DIVS and definitions in frontend.css.

May be this helps you to get further.

You might create a class for background like ".background-main" and
define then this in frontend.css like:

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.background-main {
     background-image:url(images/bg_top2.gif);
     repeat: no-repeat;
}

Klappstuhl28 · Post by **Klappstuhl28** » Thu 20. Apr 2006, 20:48

Hi SNap,

same old story with validation. The tipp from
cyrano should solve the problem. Validation
is really funny so in former times you haven´t
a valid when you just forgot to set an alt="blah"
in an image-tag. Or just forget to close
something. No browser will care about this now!
Maybe in a future-time.

The W3C here and browser-developer there.

So, i don´t care about validation (don´t take me
as an example) but the browser have a really
high error-tolerance that this error makes me
laugh.

Anyway, good luck

pico · Post by **pico** » Fri 21. Apr 2006, 09:02

Hi

this is wrong
style="height:287px;" background="images/bg_top2.gif">

change to
style="height:287px; background-image:url(images/bg_top2.gif)">

Post by **flip-flop** » Fri 21. Apr 2006, 09:08

the same at this line:
<td colspan="4" style="height: 32px;" background="images/bg_bottom2.gif">

SNap · Post by **SNap** » Fri 21. Apr 2006, 15:35

hi flip-flop, pico,

you don't got me right

i cannot change that, since phpwcms is generating that

i just entered the pic in the picture field in layout

don't have that at my other phpwcms sites...

Post by **flip-flop** » Fri 21. Apr 2006, 15:47

You are right.
A little workaround: Create a class and insert - background="images/bg_bottom2.gif" - into.
The class you entered in the class field in layout.

Gruß Knut

olleolleolle · Post by **olleolleolle** » Fri 21. Apr 2006, 16:02

I think default settings (or templates, or examples, or stuff that comes with a project) that aren't valid HTML are problematic.

What can a user do about the situation?

Is there an Oliver-approved way of submitting code patches for phpwcms?

kind regards,
Olle

Kosse · Post by **Kosse** » Fri 21. Apr 2006, 16:16

olleolleolle wrote:I think default settings (or templates, or examples, or stuff that comes with a project) that aren't valid HTML are problematic.

If we talk about a "clean new phpwcms package" then the content parts are the big issue... otherwise many times users make their own mistakes

olleolleolle wrote: What can a user do about the situation?

re-write all the content parts

and make them valid...
means going through A LOT of code lines... replacing all HTML declarations with valid XHTML outputs... It's a thing for the future, result = css can act better as well.

olleolleolle wrote: Is there an Oliver-approved way of submitting code patches for phpwcms?
kind regards,
Olle

dunno about that, we should ask him...

Cheers

Post by **Oliver Georgi** » Sun 23. Apr 2006, 22:04

Most of the code of phpwcms is valid. Often it's the combination users are using in there templates making problems. The background attribute for td is absolute correct. But to avoid the warning use a CSS class instead.

Oliver

SNap · Post by **SNap** » Mon 24. Apr 2006, 12:05

well it's not a warning, i would ignore that

it's an error... when i paste the generated code in dreamweaver for example, it says that alle is ok

Post by **Oliver Georgi** » Mon 24. Apr 2006, 13:19

In my firefox it is a warning. The "background"

Oliver

pepe · Post by **pepe** » Mon 24. Apr 2006, 13:29

Who validates the validators

SNap · Post by **SNap** » Mon 24. Apr 2006, 16:30

Oliver Georgi wrote:In my firefox it is a warning. The "background"

Oliver

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1 ... 4711.de%2F

Klappstuhl28 · Post by **Klappstuhl28** » Mon 24. Apr 2006, 20:50

Who validates the validators ??

This is exactly the point. It´s very funny to see that meanwhile validation
has some kind of a religous dimension.

i probably gets millions of errors if i would try to validate my page.
i tried it with all normal browsers on all normal systems.
The only fault was mac with IE 4 (mac edition of course)
by the way (don´t take me as a sample). I´m going to clean up
my code either. My goal is to only a few hundredthousand errors.

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